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  • Wow, any chance you have a former employee trying to collect a little reward?

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  • Is this a SAM or an actual license verification (audit)? SAMs are voluntary.

    https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/licensing/learn-more/compliance-verification-faq

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  • Just politely decline.  It's optional.

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  • Nah, Most of the people laid off were "flip phoners" as we call them around here. They could barely use a razor flip phone let alone anything to do with a PC or even know who/what microsoft is.

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  • I didnt know it was optional he is bugging the crap out of me about it. Thanks

    Da_Schmoo wrote:

    Just politely decline.  It's optional.

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  • Da_Schmoo wrote:

    Just politely decline.  It's optional.

    I'm not as nice - I tell 'em to stop calling me and hang up. From that point forward I just hang up on them. It's just spam calls, plain and simple, and I have no time or patients for it.

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  • Big Green Man wrote:

    Is this a SAM or an actual license verification (audit)? SAMs are voluntary.

    https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/licensing/learn-more/compliance-verification-faq

    Da_Schmoo wrote:

    Just politely decline.  It's optional.

    Actually the MS audit is not optional but a formal, mandatory compliance review of a company's use of Microsoft products and services.

    Using Microsoft SAM program is optional if you have your own Inventory software like PDQ Inventory or other scanners the MS reps (usually Audit firms may have).

    However, the call from India is 99.99% BS.

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  • adrian_ych wrote:

    Big Green Man wrote:

    Is this a SAM or an actual license verification (audit)? SAMs are voluntary.

    https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/licensing/learn-more/compliance-verification-faq

    Da_Schmoo wrote:

    Just politely decline.  It's optional.

    Actually the MS audit is not optional but a formal, mandatory compliance review of a company's use of Microsoft products and services.

    This is why I asked OP for clarification.

    adrian_ych wrote:

    Big Green Man wrote:

    Is this a SAM or an actual license verification (audit)? SAMs are voluntary.

    https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/licensing/learn-more/compliance-verification-faq

    Da_Schmoo wrote:

    Just politely decline.  It's optional.

    Using Microsoft SAM program is optional if you have your own Inventory software like PDQ Inventory or other scanners the MS reps (usually Audit firms may have).

    SAM is optional, period. There is no "if" here.

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  • I told the A-username-at-microsoft.com or B-username blah blah contractors emailing us to piss off two years running, following a completed voluntary audit showing we were compliant. The competence of those outsourcers is laughably low, makes Microsoft look like they are getting ripped off.

    Since the second "HELL NO DON'T CALL ME EVER AGAIN" I've not had a single annoying email or phone call. Must be five years on now?

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  • He insisted its number 2 and not optional in an email reply. 

     1. Microsoft Software Asset Management (SAM)

    Nature of engagement - VoluntaryPerformed by - Microsoft SAM Certified Partners with more flexibility in processObjective - Help customers maximize value, minimize risks, and achieve more with their IT investment
    2. Microsoft license compliance verification (audit)
    Nature of engagement - Mandatory contractual requirementPerformed by - Independent, internationally recognized certified public accounting firms. However, in some jurisdictions, verifications are also conducted by authorized consultants on behalf of Microsoft.Objective - Help customers achieve and maintain license compliance, and to protect Microsoft’s intellectual property rights
    Its fine I spent the 20 minutes to fill it out its just annoying as shit. 
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  • Get a f&%$ing warrant and I'll chat with the Deputy serving it.

    Here's a $125 bill for the 20 minutes it took you to respond.

    masondriskell wrote:

    He insisted its number 2 and not optional in an email reply. 

     1. Microsoft Software Asset Management (SAM)

    Nature of engagement - VoluntaryPerformed by - Microsoft SAM Certified Partners with more flexibility in processObjective - Help customers maximize value, minimize risks, and achieve more with their IT investment
    2. Microsoft license compliance verification (audit)
    Nature of engagement - Mandatory contractual requirementPerformed by - Independent, internationally recognized certified public accounting firms. However, in some jurisdictions, verifications are also conducted by authorized consultants on behalf of Microsoft.Objective - Help customers achieve and maintain license compliance, and to protect Microsoft’s intellectual property rights
    Its fine I spent the 20 minutes to fill it out its just annoying as shit. 
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  • Big Green Man wrote:

    adrian_ych wrote:

    Big Green Man wrote:

    Is this a SAM or an actual license verification (audit)? SAMs are voluntary.

    https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/licensing/learn-more/compliance-verification-faq

    Da_Schmoo wrote:

    Just politely decline.  It's optional.

    Actually the MS audit is not optional but a formal, mandatory compliance review of a company's use of Microsoft products and services.

    This is why I asked OP for clarification.

    adrian_ych wrote:

    Big Green Man wrote:

    Is this a SAM or an actual license verification (audit)? SAMs are voluntary.

    https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/licensing/learn-more/compliance-verification-faq

    Da_Schmoo wrote:

    Just politely decline.  It's optional.

    Using Microsoft SAM program is optional if you have your own Inventory software like PDQ Inventory or other scanners the MS reps (usually Audit firms may have).

    SAM is optional, period. There is no "if" here.

    I think there are major changes since 2018.....

    1. The "Audit" is called Microsoft license compliance verification. 
    Microsoft license compliance verification (commonly known as “audit”) is a formal, mandatory compliance review of a company's use of Microsoft products and services, and it is part of the Microsoft license and contract compliance program. Microsoft conducts industry-standard compliance reviews with its business customers through an independent auditor pursuant to the terms of their agreement. This review is an effort to help customers achieve and maintain license compliance, and to protect Microsoft intellectual property rights. Therefore, be assured that unless Microsoft invokes its contractual right to verify compliance via a third-party accounting firm (as fully documented in your Volume Licensing Agreement), you are not involved in a license compliance verification.

    2. SAM or Software Asset Management refers to Inventory software or Inventory scanning tools.
    Some firms already have their own SAM like PDQ Inventory or SpiceWorks Inventory so the Auditors assigned from Microsoft license compliance verification team could use reports from these software. Else some auditors would run their own SAM tools (Inventory scanning tools). 

    But nonetheless, you should have some written audit request (likely from an Audit firm or software provider) and not just a simple phone call.

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  • You say you downsized and slashed workforce by half - did you also cut licenses by half? Perhaps they noticed and wondered if you were just sneakily trying to half costs but keep the same number of installations/users.

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  • adrian_ych wrote:

    Big Green Man wrote:

    adrian_ych wrote:

    Big Green Man wrote:

    Is this a SAM or an actual license verification (audit)? SAMs are voluntary.

    https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/licensing/learn-more/compliance-verification-faq

    Da_Schmoo wrote:

    Just politely decline.  It's optional.

    Actually the MS audit is not optional but a formal, mandatory compliance review of a company's use of Microsoft products and services.

    This is why I asked OP for clarification.

    adrian_ych wrote:

    Big Green Man wrote:

    Is this a SAM or an actual license verification (audit)? SAMs are voluntary.

    https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/licensing/learn-more/compliance-verification-faq

    Da_Schmoo wrote:

    Just politely decline.  It's optional.

    Using Microsoft SAM program is optional if you have your own Inventory software like PDQ Inventory or other scanners the MS reps (usually Audit firms may have).

    SAM is optional, period. There is no "if" here.

    I think there are major changes since 2018.....

    1. The "Audit" is called Microsoft license compliance verification. 
    Microsoft license compliance verification (commonly known as “audit”) is a formal, mandatory compliance review of a company's use of Microsoft products and services, and it is part of the Microsoft license and contract compliance program. Microsoft conducts industry-standard compliance reviews with its business customers through an independent auditor pursuant to the terms of their agreement. This review is an effort to help customers achieve and maintain license compliance, and to protect Microsoft intellectual property rights. Therefore, be assured that unless Microsoft invokes its contractual right to verify compliance via a third-party accounting firm (as fully documented in your Volume Licensing Agreement), you are not involved in a license compliance verification.

    2. SAM or Software Asset Management refers to Inventory software or Inventory scanning tools.
    Some firms already have their own SAM like PDQ Inventory or SpiceWorks Inventory so the Auditors assigned from Microsoft license compliance verification team could use reports from these software. Else some auditors would run their own SAM tools (Inventory scanning tools). 

    But nonetheless, you should have some written audit request (likely from an Audit firm or software provider) and not just a simple phone call.

    This has not changed at all since I've worked in IT. There have always been audits and SAMs, and they've always been two separate things. This is all outlined in the link I posted above.

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  • Not necessarily picking on you.  I went through through three SAMs, spread about 2-1/2 years apart.  Been a while since my last one......

    Edit:  I will say that my first SAM kicked off shortly after I started transitioning from OEM/Retail licenses to Volume, and I had just reimaged 60 XP boxes and re-applied their OEM license.  A few of them required calls in to Microsoft because the OEM license failed.

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  • "Connection Microsoft guys put it all together on subscription based plan etc"

    What "subscription based plan" is this?  Some Volume Licensing agreements such as Open Value have usage reporting requirements every 2/3 years depending on the plan.  This is not a SAM or audit, just a requirement to report your usage for the items included in the agreement and to "true up" if necessary.

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  • Tell them to go the heck...there is no need for you to cooperate with them. I had to do that a couple of years ago.

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