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  • I read the story about it when i arrived in the office. There's not a lot known about it ( shooter / reasons / linked to terrorism or not ). These days the frequency of this kind of attacks seems to be on the rise.

    Hope all @Spiceworks are ok ( family & friends included )

    http://www.hln.be/hln/nl/960/Buitenland/article/detail/2817719/2016/07/31/Een-dode-en-verschillende-...

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  • One dead, three injured.  This is getting silly...

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  • And the BBC didn't carry http://thefederalist.com/2016/07/29/concealed-carrier-saves-cop-pinned-down-by-meth-addict/.  The reality is that even if you ban guns you don't stop the violence.  Witness the machete wielding attack in China a few years back; the knife wielding attack in Germany just a few weeks ago; the 9/11 hijackings.  None of these attackers used guns.  The problem isn't guns - it's people.

    Just for the record, on Friday the overhead sign on C-470 reported 302 traffic deaths on Colorado roads so far this year - far more than killed by guns in this state so far this year.  Again, the problem is people.

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  • brianwhelton wrote:

    One dead, three injured.  This is getting silly...

    I feel the news casting about it isn't consequent. In one place they say 3 injured and in another one 4. And apparently the shooter might have already been caught. If so then why not properly disclose it....
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  • Stop shooting each other!!! All future violence needs to be restricted to Street Fighter or Call Of Duty or whatever else people play these days!

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  • Apparently there were two different event - both at 2 AM when the bars are closing.  One event had a single shot reported fired with a single injury.  The other event, not at the same location but nearby, had 1 dead and 3 injured.

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  • Yep, this is getting out of hand.

    Call me what you want, but it seems to me if more people would heed the words of an old teacher when he said, "Love your neighbor," human life might be more valued and these killing might be less common.

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  • Jeez. It's sickening how so many people have no regard for human life.

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  • This is really getting out of hand

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  • Edwin_Eekelaers wrote:

    I read the story about it when i arrived in the office. There's not a lot known about it ( shooter / reasons / linked to terrorism or not ). These days the frequency of this kind of attacks seems to be on the rise.

    Hope all @Spiceworks are ok ( family & friends included )

    http://www.hln.be/hln/nl/960/Buitenland/article/detail/2817719/2016/07/31/Een-dode-en-verschillende-...

    Statistically speaking we live in the safest time in human history ever, with violence and violent crimes trending downwards. Only reason the frequency appears to come up is that every single violent shooting these days is reported on (inter)national news as live feeds over twitter as news agencies try to come out with the latest information first (without necessarily checking accuracy, which is why you get conflicting reports until about a day or so after the incident when the dust has settled).

    While every unnecessary death is a tragedy, I think the more interconnected we become as a whole species the less this kind of senselessness will occur.
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  • Shunt00213 wrote:

    Edwin_Eekelaers wrote:

    I read the story about it when i arrived in the office. There's not a lot known about it ( shooter / reasons / linked to terrorism or not ). These days the frequency of this kind of attacks seems to be on the rise.

    Hope all @Spiceworks are ok ( family & friends included )

    http://www.hln.be/hln/nl/960/Buitenland/article/detail/2817719/2016/07/31/Een-dode-en-verschillende-...

    Statistically speaking we live in the safest time in human history ever, with violence and violent crimes trending downwards. Only reason the frequency appears to come up is that every single violent shooting these days is reported on (inter)national news as live feeds over twitter as news agencies try to come out with the latest information first (without necessarily checking accuracy, which is why you get conflicting reports until about a day or so after the incident when the dust has settled).

    While every unnecessary death is a tragedy, I think the more interconnected we become as a whole species the less this kind of senselessness will occur.
    There's been a minor spike this year, but everything you said holds true. That and if The News doesn't keep you in a mild panic thinking dingoes are going to eat your kids in the streets while everyone else is being shot at by terrorists, then there's a slight chance you'll skip watching it tomorrow. 
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  • As far as I know, all at Spiceworks are okay. Thanks for your concern, guys!!

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  • That's good news Sazbaz.

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  • Shunt00213 wrote:

    Edwin_Eekelaers wrote:

    I read the story about it when i arrived in the office. There's not a lot known about it ( shooter / reasons / linked to terrorism or not ). These days the frequency of this kind of attacks seems to be on the rise.

    Hope all @Spiceworks are ok ( family & friends included )

    http://www.hln.be/hln/nl/960/Buitenland/article/detail/2817719/2016/07/31/Een-dode-en-verschillende-...

    Statistically speaking we live in the safest time in human history ever, with violence and violent crimes trending downwards. Only reason the frequency appears to come up is that every single violent shooting these days is reported on (inter)national news as live feeds over twitter as news agencies try to come out with the latest information first (without necessarily checking accuracy, which is why you get conflicting reports until about a day or so after the incident when the dust has settled).

    While every unnecessary death is a tragedy, I think the more interconnected we become as a whole species the less this kind of senselessness will occur.
    I hope you're right, but based on history I unfortunately doubt it.
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  • Cyali wrote:

    Jeez. It's sickening how so many people have no regard for human life.

    Particularly, those people in the news business who sensationalize these events to the point that borderline psychotics are inspired by how they too can become famous simply by being a copycat.

    Not saying this is what happened in Austin, but, they don't call Television, Radio, etc. "programming" for nuthin'. I sincerely wish there were a better way for them to sell soap and other advertising.

    Anyone who thinks that blatant, repetitive exposure to violent acts portrayed in graphic detail by media, gaming, and other news and entertainment outlets doesn't desensitize people to such acts can likely be found to have a profit motive that influences their opinion.

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  • Yikes, that is sad. Hopefully people start exercising their second amendment right and carry for protection. I know I do. Not just protection for myself, but for others who choose not to exercise that right.

    You can ban guns, but that doesn't ban violence. Violent people are violent by nature. They will hurt and/or kill you with whatever weapon will get the job done in that moment.

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  • BBigford wrote:

    Yikes, that is sad. Hopefully people start exercising their second amendment right and carry for protection. I know I do. Not just protection for myself, but for others who choose not to exercise that right.

    We don't have the 2nd over here and if one decides to rough me up i'll go down hard but revenge shall be sweet & from an unforeseen place... Had someone threaten me recently and he's been politely ( read slightly sarcastic ) been convinced to refrain from doing so in the future as he got a less then social call from the local law office.
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  • Edwin_Eekelaers wrote:

    BBigford wrote:

    Yikes, that is sad. Hopefully people start exercising their second amendment right and carry for protection. I know I do. Not just protection for myself, but for others who choose not to exercise that right.

    We don't have the 2nd over here and if one decides to rough me up i'll go down hard but revenge shall be sweet & from an unforeseen place... Had someone threaten me recently and he's been politely ( read slightly sarcastic ) been convinced to refrain from doing so in the future as he got a less then social call from the local law office.
    What's messed up about some retaliation (at least here) is if the injuries are similar but their crime was in the heat of the moment it's not as severe a punishment as yours which was pre-meditated assault.

    That really sucks about some countries not allowing protection. Compared to other countries. America has some firearms rights, but that doesn't even compare to Switzerland where citizens are issued a firearm AND trained how to use it. Violence and crimes is very low, but it's hard to determine if it's low because everyone is armed or because they are just not very violent by nature.

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  • *crosses fingers*

    Please don't turn this into a gun thread.

    This was purely to find out whether all our friends and their friends/family in Austin were ok.

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  • Edwin_Eekelaers wrote:

    BBigford wrote:

    Yikes, that is sad. Hopefully people start exercising their second amendment right and carry for protection. I know I do. Not just protection for myself, but for others who choose not to exercise that right.

    We don't have the 2nd over here and if one decides to rough me up i'll go down hard but revenge shall be sweet & from an unforeseen place... Had someone threaten me recently and he's been politely ( read slightly sarcastic ) been convinced to refrain from doing so in the future as he got a less then social call from the local law office.

    A buddy of mine is a retired USAF officer and while stationed in a certain country in Europe back in the 1990's, his wife was stalked by one of the local natives (hereafter referred to as the "creep"). This couple was friends with a local policeman and his wife too and when the policeman was informed about the creep doing the stalking, the policeman and his fellow officers located the creep one evening and worked him over with their nightsticks and left him on the side of the street all beat up. The creep made no further attempts at stalking after that and it was noted that even upon seeing the wife walking down the same street one day, he opted to turn around and run the other way so as to not even accidentally find himself being seen within a hundred feet of her. No official reports of any kind were ever made about this and the story is passed down only by word of mouth.

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  • Huw3481 wrote:

    *crosses fingers*

    Please don't turn this into a gun thread.

    This was purely to find out whether all our friends and their friends/family in Austin were ok.

    Wouldn't do such a thing. My apologies if it was headed in that direction at my doing.

    Thoughts are out to the friends/families who are affected by the tragedy.
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  • BBigford wrote:

    Huw3481 wrote:

    *crosses fingers*

    Please don't turn this into a gun thread.

    This was purely to find out whether all our friends and their friends/family in Austin were ok.

    Wouldn't do such a thing. My apologies if it was headed in that direction at my doing.

    Thoughts are out to the friends/families who are affected by the tragedy.
    No problems.  Wasn't aimed at you, per se.  More of a general comment based off some of the other comments.
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  • Huw3481 wrote:

    BBigford wrote:

    Huw3481 wrote:

    *crosses fingers*

    Please don't turn this into a gun thread.

    This was purely to find out whether all our friends and their friends/family in Austin were ok.

    Wouldn't do such a thing. My apologies if it was headed in that direction at my doing.

    Thoughts are out to the friends/families who are affected by the tragedy.
    No problems.  Wasn't aimed at you, per se.  More of a general comment based off some of the other comments.
    Perhaps people who are affected too much by things like this should refrain from replying ( mental note to oneself ... i'm talking about you there in Belgium )...
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