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  • Hi Jari,

    consider to contact Xerox, we have copiers as well as printers and are sattisfied. They have a printer working like the Colorcube technology (I have seen working it in there showroom, but don't have it at work) and the phaser model a nice machine whit an all in function, you will find it on the website (www.xerox.com)

    regards

    Georges

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  • Hi Jari,

    Forget epson, they tend to be worse than HP.  For our office printers we use Xerox though those drivers (especially for the older copiers) can be just as bad as the HP ones. 

    Have you tried using the mini drivers from HP?  These are the ones that are the bare print driver and are without all the fancy GUI rubbish.  They are typically pitched for citrix environment but they work just as well in a normal environment.  Have a look at https://support.citrix.com/servlet/KbServlet/download/10498-102-647377/Citrix%2520Supported%2520HP%2520Printers.pdf&sa=X&ei=85KATNGUJ9ObnwebmOjwDg&ved=0CBsQzgQoADAA&usg=AFQjCNG6Myi0sgnxQVQCqp8LynS27jYcGQ

    Wayne

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  • We run Xerox printers and i am personally being the test subject for Win7. Other than their being little or no x64 drivers its not bad :)

    If you are planning to (or are) running 32bit machines you should have little or no trouble setting it all up up.

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  • Thank you for prompt replies and advices.

    Minidrivers ... I was totally forgotten them.  Sound like a solution to numerous problems w/ drivers.

    So, assuming Xerox is OK, driverwise as poor as HP, should it be better to standardize on PCL5 or PCL6 language instead of brand? Or is it so that if printer supports PCL, some features (like graphics) is missing?

    To make this even more complex, printers shall work with SAP, Windows and a few Linux distros.

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  • If you thought HP drivers are a mess, stay away from Epson and LexMark.  They will really put a drag on your machines.  The HP mini-drivers are the way to go, and don't mess with any HP below the 2000 series.  For workgroups larger than 5 people go to the 3000 series, and for 10 or more, the 4000 series.  They are solid, easy to repair, and toner is available when you need it.

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  • We are tracking toward MFP products.  With the merging of printer, scan, fax, copier, email, ftp, scan to pc etc. etc. I found the easiest and most economical was to go one product line whatever it is. We went Samsung who are new into the MFP market. (price could not be beat)

    I found with the big OLD copier companies they still tend to gouge on price. The printer merging to copier side is driving the price per print down. With service and supplies included the cost per print/copy is getting less expensive and more reliable.

    The nice thing is I can default b/w on select units and then give selective or controled colour out to users. Reduced the cost by 80 plus percent in one of our offices.

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    Tony8145 wrote:

    We are tracking toward MFP products.  With the merging of printer, scan, fax, copier, email, ftp, scan to pc etc. etc. I found the easiest and most economical was to go one product line whatever it is. We went Samsung who are new into the MFP market. (price could not be beat)

    I found with the big OLD copier companies they still tend to gouge on price. The printer merging to copier side is driving the price per print down. With service and supplies included the cost per print/copy is getting less expensive and more reliable.

    The nice think is I can default b/w and give selective or controled colour. reduced the cost by 80 plus percent in one office.  

    Have you any idea how compatible the Samsung's are to HP's PCL language.  We have a core service provider who will not support printing except on the HP's.  We have moved to the mid-size HP mfps for scanning, printing, and faxing and saved a lot over the older copier-based systems.

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  • Ah yes the old legacy HP codes.

     

    They appear to be up to latest PCL6 and PS compliant. We are printing from some legacy sh^t without issue.

     

    Used to have to modify print code for AS400 IBM middleware to PCL printers so I understand. grrr

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  • We have many "legacy" apps that will only print correctly with PCL5 or PCL5e which is why in order to have to spend too much time supporting a printer, we stick with HP.  To re-emphasize, the mini-drivers without the bloated complete install is the way to go.

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  • What is your print volume?  We have some larger printers we lease & I'm sure they would not have any issues with 64 bit vs. 32 bit vs Mac.  My favovite printer is the Konica Minolta CP550, and we print approximately 400,000 copies a year on that color printer.  We also have a large Sharp B&W printer and have not experienced any issues.

    In the past, (about 7+ years ago), I worked for a company that replaced all their HP printers with Xerox printers.  The reliability of those Xerox printers was terrible as they had constant breakdowns.  But that was a while ago & I have not had experience with them since that time.

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  • We use a range of printer manufacturers, and overall our Xerox machines have performed the best. Mind you, the HP 4100's have been excellent too.

    I suppose the best thing to do would be to post your requirements so we could give a more informed suggestion.

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